There’s a fine line between standing out and turning people off.
In this episode, Avery unpacks the difference between differentiation and alienation—and why brands that mistake one for the other risk losing relevance fast.
From Refy’s “Iconic Never Gets Old” campaign to the downfall of try-hard “pick-me” branding, Avery explores how intention, optimism, and care separate the brands that build connection from the ones that repel it.
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00:00 — Introduction: Differentiation vs. Alienation - The Fine Line Every Brand Walks
02:00 — Pumpkin Spice, Pick-Me Energy, and the Problem With “Relatable” Brands
06:00 — Refy’s “Iconic Never Gets Old” Campaign Breakdown
07:00 — Why Aging (and Evolving) Is the Ultimate Brand Advantage
19:00 — How to Stand Out Without Turning People Off
28:00 — Differentiation Is Hope; Alienation Is Fear
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