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In this third appearance on the DTC Podcast, Constantine Yurevich, founder of SegmentStream, delivers the most comprehensive breakdown of the marketing measurement landscape we've ever recorded.
This isnât theory. Itâs a raw, truth-filled look at what works, whatâs broken, and how DTC brands can actually understand whatâs driving growth.
Forget the vendor noise. This episode will reset your measurement mindset.
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Key Insights and Takeaways:
The 3 measurement models in DTC: empirical attribution, statistical modeling (MMM), and causal testing (geo-holdouts)âand why only one is truly useful for most brands.
Why MMM is mostly theater: assumptions-driven, biased by design, and rarely accurate for DTC brands under $100M in spend.
The myth of incrementality measurement: how geo-holdouts and lift tests produce confidence intervals too wide to act on.
How to build a trustworthy attribution stack:
First-click attribution (and why itâs ignored by platforms)
Identity graph stitching across devices/users
Self-reported attribution + re-attribution logic to uncover dark-funnel sources (YouTube, podcasts, etc.)
Why first-click attribution is the best tool for understanding new customer acquisition.
How self-reporting + re-attribution can show you where brand awareness is really coming from.
The fatal flaw in measuring âincrementalityâ via platform lift studies.
How to use marginal analytics to reallocate budget before returns diminish.
Why platforms are killing first-click visibilityâand what that tells you about their incentives.
This episode is for DTC operators who are tired of overpaying for last-click conversions that wouldâve happened anyway, want clear signals from upper-funnel and brand channels, and are hungry for real insight.
Timestamps
00:00 Intro and the state of marketing measurement
02:15 Why most models are disconnected from reality
05:00 Three main categories of marketing measurement
08:10 The limits of MMM and mathematical models
12:00 The rise of new-gen MMM and confirmation bias
17:00 Geo holdout testing and its flaws
24:00 Why true incrementality is nearly impossible to measure
31:00 First click vs last click attribution
37:00 Using identity graphs and self-reported attribution
44:00 Why attribution still matters after 20 years
52:00 Where SegmentStream fits in and key takeaways
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#DTC #Ecommerce #MarketingMeasurement #Attribution #MMM #DigitalMarketing #BrandGrowth #MarketingData #Incrementality #AdTech
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